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but yeah i'm not into witchcraft for the (leiko don't view this it's witchcraft bad) hexing people or anything just for the cool herbs and meditation and stuff
i don't get it, why did they tell you to talk about it here? what's metaphysical about creating a thoughtform of someone else and letting someone else force it
AFAIK if you're willing to give it a reasonable scientific backing/understanding (not one totally in conflict with the laws of physics) you're fine in the non meta channels here, just be clear that's the angle you're coming from.
can you give me a couple of different methods to do energy manipulation? and also, when i'm meditating and trying to do energy manipulation, everyone always says do it slow but i feel like i have to hold back to make it not fast, which is sort of confusing
bemacbe
What’s this about energy manipulation? We talking electrical, mechanical or thermal?
Now that you mention it, I'm genuinely curious what that is.
I don't know anything about magic. The first guess I have is it has to do with manipulating one's aura, but I'm wondering if that's a cheesy tv stereotype
So after much distractions from real life things I have made it to my computer and remembered this convo
A long kiss goodnight
Now that you mention it, I'm genuinely curious what that is.
I don't know anything about magic. The first guess I have is it has to do with manipulating one's aura, but I'm wondering if that's a cheesy tv stereotype
I would define energy manipulation or energy work as the direct altering of spiritual energy. Direct meaning you do it purely through visualizations or similar to how you move your muscles rather than a ritual or spellwork in witchcraft.
9:43 PM
Here is a couple ways to do it.
9:43 PM
First off pick one of these three that resonates with you better than the others:
Smoke
Light
Water
Now imagine that whichever you picked fills your body completely. This is the energy inside of you and to move it imagine that thing moving. If you want to shoot energy out of your hand then you should imagine that object shooting or flowing out of your hand. If you want to clear out stagnant energy in an area then imagine that object moving around in that area. Note that this is purely to help with visualization and you can use any other material that you can visualize well.
I would define energy manipulation or energy work as the direct altering of spiritual energy. Direct meaning you do it purely through visualizations or similar to how you move your muscles rather than a ritual or spellwork in witchcraft.
can you give me a couple of different methods to do energy manipulation? and also, when i'm meditating and trying to do energy manipulation, everyone always says do it slow but i feel like i have to hold back to make it not fast, which is sort of confusing
If you feel like you are holding back then let it flow as naturally as possible. When people say not to go too hard they mean don't push harder than necessary, not hold back what is freely moving.
Well no, but oxygen is required in the process of producing ATP, so its no stretch to imagine that more oxygen from pranayama or other breathwork may increase ATP
11:34 PM
I occasionally do pranayama but never considered this before
I thought oxygen was used to breaking down ATP and ATP can be broken down in two stages which oxygen is only needed for the second. Breathwork would help get rid of lactic acid which could help with oxygen reaching cells so that both processes are able to function.
That's really interesting, it sounds a lot like meditation.
We have a "body scanner" visualization technique we use that reminds me of this concept. When Gray is stressed out, he will visualize his anxiety as a black fluid, like some kind of ink. Next, he will let the ink flow out of his hands and away from the body. For whatever reason he will start to feel cold and it helps to imagine a fireplace or a blanket.
Yeah that is a simple visualization that could be said to be energy work. The cold would be from the energy leaving the spirit and needing more so the fire would be like a simple invocation to pull the fire element into the spirit.
11:51 PM
Because anxiety is heavily correlated with fire energy so pushing it out would push a lot of the fire element out similar to orange being similar to red and getting rid of orange getting rid of a lot of red too.
That's really interesting, I didn't know that was an established association. I wonder if some people would go as far to say the ink burns, for me it doesn't but deep down I know it's hurting me in a deeper sense?
11:57 PM
When I touch the ink in wonderland, a slightly different context than letting it all pour out(edited)
I don't know where I got the concept black ink (or black thought water) is anxiety from. My first guess is Super Mario Sunshine because the ink is considered "bad" and I learned that since I was a kid, but otherwise I can't think of another explanation for it.
This is the energy inside of you and to move it imagine that thing moving.
@Albino Elephant
I find this interesting as a tulpa because when I was learning possession, I would fail because I was imagining or visualizing the body moving instead of actually moving it. Moving the body takes a different kind of mental action than imagination. I wonder if just imagining the energy moving is really as effective as a mental motion more akin to moving the body (allowing for the idea of spiritual energy being real)
@Aya Yeah you are right it isn't as effective at all as actually moving it like you would a muscle. The issue is how do you tell someone to move a muscle they have never felt? Visualization gets someone's foot in the door to start moving and feeling the energy until they can learn to move it the same they would a muscle.
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